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Most baseball writers believe that Jack Morris will be elected into Baseball’s Hall of Fame and Museum in 2014, his final year of eligibility. Despite his lifetime 3.90 earned run average and otherwise pedestrian numbers (he does have 254 wins, but that’s more a function of his run support and rubber-armed ability to pitch deep into ballgames.). Stieb’s numbers, when you strip away circumstances beyond his control, are arguably superior to Morris’s, but there is no ground swell of support for his Hall of Fame induction. In his only year of eligibility (2004) Stieb only garnered 1.7% of the vote. Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? Is HE, not Jack Morris, the best pitcher of the 1980s? Have a listen and make a judgment call!

Dave Stieb: Baseball Reference

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Scott discusses the Hall of Fame case of Minnesota Twins center fielder Kirby Puckett (1960-2006). Puckett was the face of the Twins franchise during the mid eighties and early nineties, coinciding with the Twins World Series titles in 1987 and 1991 (both World Series rings, not coincidentally, were won in seven game series in which the Twins had home-field (or is it home-warehouse) advantage. Puckett became a more controversial figure after his 2001 Hall of Fame induction (elected with 82 percent of the vote), with allegations of physical and emotional spousal abuse and one allegation of sexual assault and false imprisonment sullied his then-sterling reputation.

What, then, to make of Kirby Puckett’s case for the Hall of Fame? Should he be in? Answer the poll below! For Scott’s take, download the episode. You can email feedback to scott@thebaseballexperience.com. You can post in the comments below, or you can like us on Facebook. Don’t forget to follow Scott on twitter @scotteiland!

Kirby Puckett’s Baseball Reference Page


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Jack Morris‘s Hall of Fame case has been debated for more than a decade. The erstwhile “ace” of the Tigers, Twins, and Blue Jays sparks many a debate among baseball writers, so I thought it’d be a good idea to dive into the case – pro and con – and see if I could come up with a conclusion. I was all set to record the show Tuesday when breaking news regarding one more manufactured performance enhancing drug scandal hit the news wire, so we’ll discuss that at the end of the show today.

But first, the Hall of Fame case of Jack Morris.

David Schoenfeld of ESPN presented an excellent breakdown of the case for Morris on the ESPN Sweet Spot blog that states, essentially, you’re relying on one game.

The case for Morris:

1. He was an innings eater, a workhorse, and didn’t get hurt. This was during a time when there weren’t many guys who could throw 240+ innings consistently.

2. He was an icon of the 1980s. Complete with Tom Selleck-like mustache, Jack looked like the lead character of a detective series. He won the most games in the 1980s and often stayed in the game an inning or two longer when the situation called for it, allowing his admittedly unspectacular ERA to have some context to it– maybe he wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire, but he was an invaluable asset to his team, giving the bullpen a night off when he could. Nobody will pitch as many innings as he did per year again, and even though the 1980s is an “arbitrary end point,” he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because of the pressure he took off of his manager (Sparky Anderson, a Hall of Famer without question).

3. GAME SEVEN, 1991. Morris pitched ten shutout innings to lead his Twins over the Atlanta Braves, 1-0, to give the Twins a rare World Series title in that eyesore of eyesores, the Hubert H Humphery Metrodome.

The case against Morris:

1. If elected, he would have the highest ERA of any pitcher in the Hall, a full tenth of a run behind Red Ruffing.
2. He never came close to winning a Cy Young Award – he came in third twice.
3. He was never considered the best pitcher in the league.
4. There are a few pitchers in Morris’s era who were better than him (Rick Reuschel, Dave Stieb, Luis Tiant, Bret Saberhagen)

Ultimately, I’m a small-Hall guy. So what’s a man to do? Listen to the show for my verdict.